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Drawing a Crowd

I am officially on holiday!! I’m hoping to post some photos here over the next week as we will be in some scenic places. Today I wanted to repost something put up here a few years ago as I think it ties in well with the series we just completed. :: originally posted 18 December […]

by bob

Aug 14, 2021

I am officially on holiday!! I’m hoping to post some photos here over the next week as we will be in some scenic places. Today I wanted to repost something put up here a few years ago as I think it ties in well with the series we just completed.

:: originally posted 18 December 2018::

David Fitch shared a post over on Facebook that stirred up some things I’ve been thinking about off and on for the past 8 years. Fitch, of course, is writing this with North America in mind, and I think it applies at least as much to church planting in Europe. He writes:

When we were first church planting in Ithaca 20 years ago, all the coaching we received listed step one as “Draw a Crowd.” Whatever you need to do, get as many people into your doors on a Sunday (or whenever you happen to meet). Once they are in, then you can sort out who your leaders are…and who have the potential for becoming disciples and who were simply scaffolding. The goal was to be a fully supported church within the first 2 years of existence.

(In fact, the head of church planting in our denomination encouraged church planters to not spend time during that period on messages. His advice was to find someone whose voice resonates with you and ‘steal’ their sermons.)

Early on in our plant, we decided to avoid the “draw a crowd” model. Our leadership felt strongly about building a certain type of culture in our church and took steps to avoid church transfer and other quick growth methods.

But a few years into our plant, I saw a crowd (fleeing another church in our area) at our door and invited them in. And it forever changed the culture of our faith community

It was a couple of years after that experience where it seemed that day after day I was coming across passages in scripture dealing with crowds. Our leadership team was in the midst of addressing issues that had surfaced over the previous few years…it was an encouraging and healing process to be part of. But it was difficult as well.

Maybe, it was like that phenomenon where you buy a certain car and all of a sudden you see that same car everywhere. We were dealing with the impact of a crowd and the word was popping off the pages of scripture.

Just a few examples:

  • The crowd usually contained Pharisees and other opposed to Jesus message and mission. (Luke 19:39)
  • The crowd made it difficult for those seeking Jesus to get near him. (Luke 5:19 & Matthew 20:31)
  • They made it difficult to take care of basic necessities (Mark 3:20)
  • It was the crowd that attempted to throw Jesus off a cliff, (Luke 4:29) and eventually yells “crucify!” (Luke 23:21)

You get the idea. Do a search sometime on the word crowd in the gospels. It is eye-opening, to say the least.

When Jesus encountered the crowds he would teach them (in parables), he would feed them, heal them, have compassion on them. But he would also sneak away from them, or chase them away. He never tried to get them to join. He understood who they were. 

Despite the nature of crowds, Jesus demonstrated compassion towards them. Churches using crowds as a means of rapid growth…not as much.

Crowds are drawn with great programming and entertainment, and all kinds of bells and whistles. At some point, the bait is switched.  Sure, we said come and be entertained, but now we need you to chip in and help pay for all of this. And you should start going to a bible study. And, let’s talk about how you can serve on a Sunday because if we want to keep drawing crowds, we need more people to become part of keeping this machine running.

I’m not saying all the stuff churches try and get people to do is bad. A lot of it is positive…I think for many churches, there is a desire to help the crowd become disciples.

The problem is that discipleship is not what you got them in the door with….they were drawn in by something other than discipleship with Jesus, and are likely still seeking whatever that might be.

A related question is, “if Jesus never tried to disciple the crowd, why would we try that as a model.” (and enough has been written elsewhere to document that this model has a poor track record of making disciples…so I won’t go into that any more here. )

So, back to the quote from Dave Fitch. I often wonder what would have happened in Ithaca if we had had people speaking like that in our lives. (I likely would have been a much more enjoyable person to be around 🙂 And more importantly, I think it would have changed the impact of the church in Ithaca as well.

The other part of Fitch’s comment I like, we are just the other side of 5 years in our neighbourhood…and working with a few great families! Excited to see what is next!

What do you think of Fitch’s question about patience?

 

What about Bob?

bob

I grew up in Western New York and have started and led missional church planting efforts for a little over 30 years. As you might gather, I have opinions about the church, and I share some of them here.

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